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	<title>Comments on: The semitic canard</title>
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		<title>By: Sarah Resnick</title>
		<link>http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2009/06/14/the-semitic-canard/comment-page-1/#comment-6233</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Resnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally unscientific, but I know a number of professed &quot;orthodox&quot; or &quot;conservadox&quot; Jews who consider themselves politically &quot;liberal&quot; or &quot;progressive&quot;.  Interesting post though with some neat observations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally unscientific, but I know a number of professed &#8220;orthodox&#8221; or &#8220;conservadox&#8221; Jews who consider themselves politically &#8220;liberal&#8221; or &#8220;progressive&#8221;.  Interesting post though with some neat observations.</p>
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		<title>By: cathyf</title>
		<link>http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2009/06/14/the-semitic-canard/comment-page-1/#comment-6197</link>
		<dc:creator>cathyf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Ron, I wasn&#039;t clear that I am totally an outsider here -- these are my husband&#039;s sister&#039;s in-laws I&#039;m talking about.  They are observant Jews according to what has been explained to me over the years by multiple Jewish friends and co-workers, but I have no skin in this game.  I&#039;m Catholic, and the ONLY way to join my religion is via conversion.

I also live in the rural midwest, and yes there are plenty of Obama supporters here, but also plenty of people who are dumbfounded and amazed that anyone could support him.  We are polite to each other (small town people have to live which each other&#039;s differences) but it&#039;s clear to all of us that the only thing that we are agreeing on is to disagree.  Joe Y -- I think that what we are seeing is less a liberal-conservative thing and more a big-city vs country thing.  Big-city liberals are not clueless because they are liberals, but because they live in big cities and actually have the numbers to successfully ghetto-ize themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Ron, I wasn&#8217;t clear that I am totally an outsider here &#8212; these are my husband&#8217;s sister&#8217;s in-laws I&#8217;m talking about.  They are observant Jews according to what has been explained to me over the years by multiple Jewish friends and co-workers, but I have no skin in this game.  I&#8217;m Catholic, and the ONLY way to join my religion is via conversion.</p>
<p>I also live in the rural midwest, and yes there are plenty of Obama supporters here, but also plenty of people who are dumbfounded and amazed that anyone could support him.  We are polite to each other (small town people have to live which each other&#8217;s differences) but it&#8217;s clear to all of us that the only thing that we are agreeing on is to disagree.  Joe Y &#8212; I think that what we are seeing is less a liberal-conservative thing and more a big-city vs country thing.  Big-city liberals are not clueless because they are liberals, but because they live in big cities and actually have the numbers to successfully ghetto-ize themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tikkun olam we subscribe to is to perfect the world in the kingship of the Almighty (see our Alenu prayer), not to implement a secular socialist agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tikkun olam we subscribe to is to perfect the world in the kingship of the Almighty (see our Alenu prayer), not to implement a secular socialist agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: soccer dad</title>
		<link>http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2009/06/14/the-semitic-canard/comment-page-1/#comment-6191</link>
		<dc:creator>soccer dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things, I think we had a Freudian slip here: &quot;conceptual blog?!&quot;

Heh.

Instapundit&#039;s daughter is BTW is Halachically Jewish.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;soccer dad&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://soccerdad.baltiblogs.com/archives/2009/06/15/if_you_do_it_for_us_we_dont_have_to.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If you do it for us, we don&#039;t have to&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things, I think we had a Freudian slip here: &#8220;conceptual blog?!&#8221;</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
<p>Instapundit&#8217;s daughter is BTW is Halachically Jewish.</p>
<p><abbr><em>soccer dad&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://soccerdad.baltiblogs.com/archives/2009/06/15/if_you_do_it_for_us_we_dont_have_to.html" rel="nofollow">If you do it for us, we don&#8217;t have to</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel in Brookline</title>
		<link>http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2009/06/14/the-semitic-canard/comment-page-1/#comment-6190</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel in Brookline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progressivism, as today&#039;s self-styled progressives understand it, can be important and useful sometimes.  The United States has gone through some real social crises in its history -- slavery, sweatshops and corporate monopolies, poll taxes and Jim Crow, and so forth.  Progressivism was willing to take on the establishment to right some important wrongs.

But what happens when the most serious wrongs you can come up with are mostly non-issues, or cases where we still do better than most of the rest of the world?  I think that what happens is that the protesters keep on protesting, always looking for a new &#039;cause&#039;... and sometimes live in willful disbelief that their latest &#039;cause&#039; is meaningless.

(Think about it.  What are the burning social issues facing America today?  Gay marriage?  Health care?  The increasingly fragile &#039;glass ceiling&#039;?  These may require attention, but THEY ARE NOT CRISES -- certainly not compared to how most of the rest of the world deals with these issues.)

I&#039;m glad the progressive mentality exists, because sometimes we really do need them; sometimes conservatism holds us back from going where we need to go next.  But there are times for looking for new causes to fight, and there are times for holding on to what we have -- particularly in the face of an enemy determined to take away all we have, regardless of whether or not we have universal health care or gay marriage.

Traditional Jewish teachings do tend to lean in a liberal, or progressive, direction -- think &lt;i&gt;tikkun olam&lt;/i&gt;, a Jewish obligation that literally means &quot;repair the world&quot;.  But some American Jews have lived in comfort in the United States for so long that they&#039;ve forgotten how dangerous it can be to be Jewish -- and the importance of keeping one&#039;s powder dry.  (Or, in the case of Glenn&#039;s anonymous correspondent, they are so frightened that they have given up completely -- and will be sitting ducks for the next Hitler that comes along.  As several have pointed out here, Hitler didn&#039;t care if you consider yourself Jewish or not.  Neither did the Entebbe hijackers; neither do Islamist terrorists worldwide today.  If they target you, not having gone to Hebrew school won&#039;t save you.)

respectfully, 
Daniel in Brookline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressivism, as today&#8217;s self-styled progressives understand it, can be important and useful sometimes.  The United States has gone through some real social crises in its history &#8212; slavery, sweatshops and corporate monopolies, poll taxes and Jim Crow, and so forth.  Progressivism was willing to take on the establishment to right some important wrongs.</p>
<p>But what happens when the most serious wrongs you can come up with are mostly non-issues, or cases where we still do better than most of the rest of the world?  I think that what happens is that the protesters keep on protesting, always looking for a new &#8217;cause&#8217;&#8230; and sometimes live in willful disbelief that their latest &#8217;cause&#8217; is meaningless.</p>
<p>(Think about it.  What are the burning social issues facing America today?  Gay marriage?  Health care?  The increasingly fragile &#8216;glass ceiling&#8217;?  These may require attention, but THEY ARE NOT CRISES &#8212; certainly not compared to how most of the rest of the world deals with these issues.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad the progressive mentality exists, because sometimes we really do need them; sometimes conservatism holds us back from going where we need to go next.  But there are times for looking for new causes to fight, and there are times for holding on to what we have &#8212; particularly in the face of an enemy determined to take away all we have, regardless of whether or not we have universal health care or gay marriage.</p>
<p>Traditional Jewish teachings do tend to lean in a liberal, or progressive, direction &#8212; think <i>tikkun olam</i>, a Jewish obligation that literally means &#8220;repair the world&#8221;.  But some American Jews have lived in comfort in the United States for so long that they&#8217;ve forgotten how dangerous it can be to be Jewish &#8212; and the importance of keeping one&#8217;s powder dry.  (Or, in the case of Glenn&#8217;s anonymous correspondent, they are so frightened that they have given up completely &#8212; and will be sitting ducks for the next Hitler that comes along.  As several have pointed out here, Hitler didn&#8217;t care if you consider yourself Jewish or not.  Neither did the Entebbe hijackers; neither do Islamist terrorists worldwide today.  If they target you, not having gone to Hebrew school won&#8217;t save you.)</p>
<p>respectfully,<br />
Daniel in Brookline</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, but you need not abandon faith to have progress.

At least, not all faiths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but you need not abandon faith to have progress.</p>
<p>At least, not all faiths.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;abandoned Faith and embraced Progress&lt;/i&gt;

Progress gives us longer, healthier lives, healthier children,  efficient commuter trains, blogs, facebook and BlackBerry Curve 8900&#039;s with 3.2 MP cameras. It&#039;s not all bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>abandoned Faith and embraced Progress</i></p>
<p>Progress gives us longer, healthier lives, healthier children,  efficient commuter trains, blogs, facebook and BlackBerry Curve 8900&#8217;s with 3.2 MP cameras. It&#8217;s not all bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: last post: Accidently hit the &quot;submit&quot; buttom before proofing. Forgive the redundancy and typos.

&lt;em&gt;I forgive you, my son&lt;/em&gt;. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: last post: Accidently hit the &#8220;submit&#8221; buttom before proofing. Forgive the redundancy and typos.</p>
<p><em>I forgive you, my son</em>. <img src='http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joe Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Cathyf: A lot of liberals who think that everyone agrees with them are just too emotional and zealous to be disagreed with. With my family and friends (mostly Jewish), the older and/or female liberals, and most of the women regardless of age, get so furious if you say anything against Obama or for any Republican, that it&#039;s not worth the trouble to mention it. However I know that I&#039;m far from the only anti-Obama supporter in the room. The problem is, the Obama supporters don&#039;t, so they think everyone agrees with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Cathyf: A lot of liberals who think that everyone agrees with them are just too emotional and zealous to be disagreed with. With my family and friends (mostly Jewish), the older and/or female liberals, and most of the women regardless of age, get so furious if you say anything against Obama or for any Republican, that it&#8217;s not worth the trouble to mention it. However I know that I&#8217;m far from the only anti-Obama supporter in the room. The problem is, the Obama supporters don&#8217;t, so they think everyone agrees with them.</p>
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		<title>By: bandit</title>
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		<dc:creator>bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO referring to Jewish liberals is the same as referring to liberal Catholic politicians as Catholics - they&#039;re outwardly observant leading up to election day but since they don&#039;t adhere to any of the teachings are they really Catholics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO referring to Jewish liberals is the same as referring to liberal Catholic politicians as Catholics &#8211; they&#8217;re outwardly observant leading up to election day but since they don&#8217;t adhere to any of the teachings are they really Catholics?</p>
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