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November 5th, 2008 at 1:58 am
A couple of months ago, I was reading a blog where the guy was saying an Obama win would actually be a good thing for conservatives.
However, I am worried about the fairness doctrine, and 1st Amendment issues, as harassment of this blogger through my extended family has already begun. All I can do is pray the same things don’t happen to my buds.
I’m aware that this probably has more to do with my support of men’s rights issues than being a conservative thing, but still I can’t help but wonder…
November 5th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Bobby Jindal in 2012! Former Hindu against incipient Muslim.
November 5th, 2008 at 6:49 am
“Let
November 5th, 2008 at 6:55 am
Here’s what needs to happen: Republicans via the blogosphere need to carefully document the factual details of the media bias in this past election now that there’s time and now that the media will be off to other matters. Most people are completely unaware of how bad it is. When the general electorate find out who Obama really is, then Republicans need to come forward with all this information in a very carefully constructed manner. Show an overwhelming amount of well presented evidence, leaving out anything that is not shockingly bad.
Republicans need another Contract with America with key pragmatic points. Details of how to clean up voter fraud, earmarking, waste, shrink government, etc. And all members of the group (all new to Congress) sign it.
November 5th, 2008 at 7:20 am
November 5th, 2008 at 7:26 am
Starting today, the race for 2010 and 2012 starts. I have a few thoughts.
1) Rebuilding the GOP – figuring out what it stands for – is critical. But I leave that for another day.
2) What is critical right now, starting today, is deep, very deep opposition research on every nominee that Obama submits or plans to submit to the Senate – every assistant secretary, every agency commissioner, every ambassador, and eventually, every judge or justice. Every unpaid parking ticket, every unpaid tax, every intemperate remark or speech or article that can be portrayed as radical or offensive, every ugly allegation in a divorce – everything and anything that can be used to attack the reputation of these nominees must be dug up and publicized. The MSM won’t cooperate, of course, but the internet and talk radio can help get the word out. Why is this important? Because it will cast a pall on the Obama administration – he’s the one nominating the corrupt or radical or immoral candidates – and because it will force him to use up chits with the Senate Democrats to push his candidates through. The Democrats have used these tactics very successfully for the past 8 years and it’s time to return the favor.
3) Campaign finance is broken forever. The Republican candidate in 2012 will need at least $2 billion to mount a credible challenge to Obama. He raised $600 million this year and his allies (unions, 527s) spent another few hundred million – all together, close to $1 billion. He’ll have more in 2012 as the incumbent. The challenger will need more than the incumbent to have a chance. Ergo, $2 billion. The time to start raising this money is today, Nov. 5, 2008.
November 5th, 2008 at 7:43 am
Always insightful and usually prophetic:
Stephen Den Beste on Obama Win:
http://chizumatic.mee.nu/not_the_end_of_the_world
November 5th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Let
November 5th, 2008 at 7:54 am
Republicans need another Contract with America with key pragmatic points. Details of how to clean up voter fraud, earmarking, waste, shrink government, etc. And all members of the group (all new to Congress) sign it.
The first Contract with America was a gimmick, albeit a smart and effective gimmick. It gave people confidence that congress would act and would act responsibly. The final result was disastrous.
If conservatives want credibility then they need to deliver on the promises that they make. That could be a very radical and popular idea: “We will make no promise that we cannot deliver to the people.” Take the hyperbole and gimmicks out of politics. Bring it back to common everyday reality.
November 5th, 2008 at 7:58 am
We need to hammer the fact that just like Sen. Stevens of AK, Obama should be going to jail for accepting illegal gifts and income tax evasion
November 5th, 2008 at 7:59 am
Well, America, you’ve decided to give the keys to the liquor cabinet and the Ferrari to your teenager. Figuratively speaking, of course. I hope your insurance premiums are paid up.
Prediction #1: 2009 will be the Summer of Obummer. The term “Obummer!” will enter the national lexicon as President Obama does things that will disappoint or anger those who voted for him.
“My electric bill doubled last month after Obama signed the Cap-and-Trade Laws!”
“Obummer, man!”
“My kid has to do 100 hours of community service in the Obama Youth!”
“That’s an Obummer!”
“I lost my job when Obama raised the taxes on my boss and he had to cut back on personnel.”
“Wow, what an Obummer!”
“Obama said I was going to get a tax cut, but now my taxes are going up even more than under Bush!”
“Obummer!”
November 5th, 2008 at 8:06 am
I’ll piggyback on the above thoughts:
1. Obama is officially now the “progressive” who utterly demolished the traditional progressive dream of publicly funded elections. Hey, what’s not to like?
2. Yes, Obama raised $600M this year. Unfortunately for him, the rest of us are now wise to his campaign donation scams. Furthermore, the Donks have painted themselves into a corner: they seem utterly unable to understand that all that money coming in is political heroin to them–once they’re hooked, they can’t give it up, but also can’t keep taking it. Something else: if the economy really goes south, there’s no guarantee the Donks will again receive the amounts they got this past year. After all, just as bankrupt firms and unemployed people don’t pay taxes, neither do they send in campaign donations.
3. If I get a new “stimulus” check next year, here’s what I’m going to do with it. If I’m satisfied that the Republican Party is making significant progress on getting its own house in order, I’ll “spread the wealth” by donating my entire check the GOP. If not, then I’ll just use the money to add another firearm to my collection.
Hey’s what’s not to like?
November 5th, 2008 at 8:12 am
It’s all about the awesome propaganda power of the MSM. If conservatives do not make a serious effort to get truth to the average voter, we will have socialized medicine and a number of other disasters. So far, conservatives only whine and complain at being steamrolled by the media. This election was a propaganda coup. With an honest news media, Obama couldn’t have won. Of course, with an honest news media, Hillary couldn’t have been nominated either.
If we don’t confront the reality of the propaganda that is driving politics, all the rest of the effort is a waste.
November 5th, 2008 at 8:15 am
Well said. I do wonder why the GOP can’t be replaced, however.
Whether we continue to call the Party that results from this debacle the GOP or not, the changes needed would make the resulting party unrecognizable as the GOP we’ve known since 1988. Instead, I suspect there will be wailing and gnashing about not being sufficiently “moderate.” That’s how we got here, and I’m afraid no lessons have been learned.
November 5th, 2008 at 8:24 am
#7 Jake,
Good piece by Stephen Den Beste. However, I disagree with “We’re going to lose in Afghanistan.”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Obama has made much hay of ramping up our effort in Backwardistan since it’s still “the good war.” The wisdom of this, obviously, can be debated. However, President Hope & Change will be in a position where he’ll HAVE to win, otherwise he’ll look completely ineffectual. I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama calls Gen. Petraeus and flat-out asks him, “General, how can we win this thing and what resources will you need to get the job done?”
November 5th, 2008 at 8:32 am
If you are a conservative with a few potentially good earnings years left, your only hope is that a few “moderate” Democratic Senators will slow the liberal legislative steamroller. Utterly discredited ideas like the ERA, expansive new areas for lawsuits, punitive tax rates, government censorship of dissent, etc. will be resurrected under the cover of Orwellian names (Fairness Doctrine, Employer Free Choice Act, etc.).
And God help us if the Senate changes the rule from 60 votes to a simple majority to close debate. As a reminder, this used to 67 votes in the 1970s.
I can’t believe that my economic future depends upon 1) self-restraint from the Obamics, and 2) a few courageous “moderate” Democrats, who will probably get rolled by the libs.
God help us.
November 5th, 2008 at 8:48 am
[...] does the future holds for America’s first mulatto president?
November 5th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Sorry I’m late. I got hung up in traffic.
I heard there was an election — how’d it turn out?
I’m afraid we won’t know for quite some time, Ara, in any meaningful sense! — RDC
November 5th, 2008 at 9:19 am
I have been reading a number of blogs by smart conservative writers like Jennifer Rubin and not one of them has mentioned SCOTUS. Any of you who lived through the Warren court should be really alarmed. Obama is a marxist – there is no other political philosophy that meets any other definition. There are 2 or 3 Supremes that will retire and the only thing standing between the most liberal court we have ever seen and political sanity is the cloture proof Senate we now have. But I cannot see 42 or 43 Republican senators keeping this court from going pink if not red. That is the nub of the whole matter – everything except national security is small change.
You’re right about this, Jack. I made this point last week. For some reason America didn’t listen to me! So there’s not a damned thing we can do about it. — RDC
November 5th, 2008 at 9:38 am
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November 5th, 2008 at 11:06 am
I thought about doing the
November 5th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Thank you, thank you, thank you Citizen Grim, and Lea.
Not only is there no reason to become the thing you hate… there is every reason not to. Both for yourself and because you never lose out by doing the right thing.
Otherwise why bother even caring?
November 5th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
“John McCain may be the most fortunate man in the world right this minute.”
Why? Because he doesn’t have to take responsibility for cleaning up the mess Bush & the GOP has left our country in?
“The most painful thing about this is not that the other side won, but that so very many of them are such absolute insufferable asses… But among these asses, none is more contemptible than virtually every member of the Democratic caucus of the two houses of Congress. To them I wish nothing but the worst.”
So much for not “demoniz[ing] our adversaries….”
“One of the great tests of our system will be whether the great degree of lawlessness and corruption that was the Obama campaign will be revealed and punished.”
WTF? Can you support such an outlandish statement with anything other than conspiracy theories?
November 5th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
The distinction that Cato (#8) and Ruy Diaz (#3) are missing is that some liberals are beyond hope, but others are not.
I am surrounded by liberal friends and family members who are solid, decent, well-meaning people. They are not beyond hope, but they will never be persuaded (just as you and I have not been persuaded by the antics of Kos, Olbermann, Franken, Maher, etc.) by people who are so angry they can’t see straight, who call them names, who yell about how evil their political representatives are without acknowledging that ours can be just as corrupt, etc., etc.
We have work to do and, as yesterday’s election should have made painfully clear, we need as many allies as we can find in this fight.
We’re Americans–let’s recognize the good things that came out of yesterday’s results (ANOTHER peaceful turnover of power, election of a black man, etc.), honestly assess our challenges (too many to even begin a list) and get on with it.
November 5th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
“we pretty much know who Obama is”
We do? He seems like political Heisenberg effect that changes depending on the observor.
November 5th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
“…WTF? Can you support such an outlandish statement with anything other than conspiracy theories?…”
This is all really new to you? You don’t really know the guy you just elected, do you?
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/2/
http://www.thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/exclusive-barackobamacoms-lax-security-opens-door-to-online-donor-fraud
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/09/29/missouri-sheriffs-prosecutors-obama-truth-squad-getting-old-media-silenc
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=FBBD4941-18FE-70B2-A858A3414D2AD30F
http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2008/10/18/mccain_camp_responds_to_obamas_1/
November 5th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
This was smart and nice to read.
November 6th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Good post.
November 9th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
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November 10th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
As was said long ago, we need “a choice, not an echo”.
November 12th, 2008 at 10:54 am
WARNING: EXPRESSION OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT – MIGHT BE OFFENSIVE TO READERS OF THIS BLOG
Be Proud “Chicago,” “Illinois,” and “America”. . . . . truth triumphs over lies and desperation . . . now the hard work begins . . . America needs to unite . . . pull together . . . if the McCain/Palin Campaign proved anything – its is smear tactics and politics of division in the USA among races, wealthy, religions . . . . is NO longer unacceptable . . . Obama won the popular vote, the educated vote (college degrees, and advanced degrees), and exceeded John McCain by 6% in those making over $200,000 a year . . .
Obama took the high road . . . McCain/Palin took the low road. Never heard anything good out of any of their ads (or policies) only negative. I guess there was NOTHING good to say about the Republican candidates. The ad hominum attacks, mischaracterization, words taken out of context, magnification of human errors, voter suppression tactics, and other tactics were simply offensive to the public. Your tunnel vision is showing. Bush and his cronies rode the USA into the ground. Even without a majority in Congress, Bush refused to compromise – look in the mirror. McCain/Palin – a solution to what?
Palin a breath of fresh air looking out her backdoor at Russia. “Shucks, ya’ll” Palin, Joe Six Pack, and Joe the Plumber (oops not a plumber) would have made us proud to be Americans. If only she could have married Jimmy Carter’s brother, the would we have a true partisan world.
I guess there are a lot of fools who voted for Obama. Read these article links if you want to learn about McCain and Palin in a different light – check out these facts (investigative reporting or as you would call it bias by a “liberal left-wing organization.” Who was indicted in Alaska, a 20 million dollar hockey rink, the number 1 state receiving pork, and MCCain bitching about a 3 million dollar earmark for the Chicago Planiterium!!!! I guess gazing at the stars does not equate with a hockey mom’s agenda – a rink in every small town,
You want the truth about McCain – the “Maverick” – its a lie – he is a phony – a true hero in the POW Camp talks about McCain (as well as other named sources)- even you acknowledge it.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23140513/the_truth_about_sarah_palin
P.S. I consider myself an independent – moderate not a liberal. But, if it makes you feel better label me a radical left winger. . . I know that you wouldn’t want to demonize the majority of voters.