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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;One small step backward for a man&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: LIKELIHOOD OF CONFUSION® &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Copyright Act: It&#8217;s a law, dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>LIKELIHOOD OF CONFUSION® &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Copyright Act: It&#8217;s a law, dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an argument; for by such analysis, virtually all policymaking becomes impossible.  It is basically the &#8220;man in the moon fallacy,&#8221; as we call it: “If they can put a man on the moon, why can’t they ” — anything. Anything that has nothing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an argument; for by such analysis, virtually all policymaking becomes impossible.  It is basically the &#8220;man in the moon fallacy,&#8221; as we call it: “If they can put a man on the moon, why can’t they ” — anything. Anything that has nothing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: YAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>YAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True...
&lt;q cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Although sometimes this argument can be used equally incorrectly for a great cause: “If we can put a man on the moon, why can’t we enforce vice laws/fix the deficit/[fill in the blank]?”&lt;/q&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True&#8230;<br />
<q cite="">Although sometimes this argument can be used equally incorrectly for a great cause: “If we can put a man on the moon, why can’t we enforce vice laws/fix the deficit/[fill in the blank]?”</q></p>
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		<title>By: Ron Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/12/26/one-small-step-backward-for-a-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2598</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAC, of course the &lt;i&gt;kal v&#039;chomer&lt;/i&gt; (i.e., the argument &lt;i&gt;a fortiori a minori&lt;/i&gt; can be logical.  I am suggesting here however that it is used fallaciously when the two premises compared are not a major and minor but completely unrelated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAC, of course the <i>kal v&#8217;chomer</i> (i.e., the argument <i>a fortiori a minori</i> can be logical.  I am suggesting here however that it is used fallaciously when the two premises compared are not a major and minor but completely unrelated.</p>
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		<title>By: YAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>YAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True!

Although sometimes this argument can be used equally incorrectly for a great cause: &quot;If we can put a man on the moon, why can&#039;t we enforce vice laws/fix the deficit/[fill in the blank]?&quot;

Also, compare the similar but far more legitimate line of Talmudic  logic, the &lt;i&gt;kal v&#039;chomer&lt;/i&gt;. For example, the Talmud states:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; &quot;Just as one whose animal damages by grazing, which is unintentional, must pay damages [in Jewish law], so too, when an animal damages by goring, which ic intentional, one should be obligated to pay damages.&quot;-- Babba Kama 4a&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So you see that this logical technique &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; be used effectively sometimes.

P.S. It happens to be that the Talmud refutes this line of logic:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;&quot;[One cannot derive the law that the owner of an animal that gores is liable to pay]...one would think that this is comparable to the case of a slave...who is upset at his master and torches his master&#039;s neighbor&#039;s haystack...thereby causing him to be liable to pay one hundred&lt;i&gt;maneh&lt;/i&gt; each day...[and since the slave did this with intent, and he is the master&#039;s property, and the master is not liable to pay, so too one would think that an animal, which is also one&#039;s property, when damaging with intent, does not incur damages upon the master.]&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True!</p>
<p>Although sometimes this argument can be used equally incorrectly for a great cause: &#8220;If we can put a man on the moon, why can&#8217;t we enforce vice laws/fix the deficit/[fill in the blank]?&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, compare the similar but far more legitimate line of Talmudic  logic, the <i>kal v&#8217;chomer</i>. For example, the Talmud states:</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p> &#8220;Just as one whose animal damages by grazing, which is unintentional, must pay damages [in Jewish law], so too, when an animal damages by goring, which ic intentional, one should be obligated to pay damages.&#8221;&#8211; Babba Kama 4a</p></blockquote>
<p>So you see that this logical technique <i>can</i> be used effectively sometimes.</p>
<p>P.S. It happens to be that the Talmud refutes this line of logic:</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>&#8220;[One cannot derive the law that the owner of an animal that gores is liable to pay]&#8230;one would think that this is comparable to the case of a slave&#8230;who is upset at his master and torches his master&#8217;s neighbor&#8217;s haystack&#8230;thereby causing him to be liable to pay one hundred<i>maneh</i> each day&#8230;[and since the slave did this with intent, and he is the master's property, and the master is not liable to pay, so too one would think that an animal, which is also one's property, when damaging with intent, does not incur damages upon the master.]</p></blockquote>
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