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		<title>By: St. Michael Traveler</title>
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		<dc:creator>St. Michael Traveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have we become a victim of Israel insecurity among Arabs going back over two thousands year?
Have we replaced the Persian protection of Israel with our American might? Have we been an Israeli proxy by invading Iraq? Why Israeli Lobby urging the United States to invade Iran?

We spend our precious tax money to bribe the regional nations by giving them “foreign aids”, please spare me! We arm these nations, all of them. Some of the same arms have been use to kill our people. Except for Iran, not a single American has been killed by Iranian people.

Should we spend our money and expertise in our hemisphere rather than 7500 miles from home? Our national interests must be our first imperative. If you would travel in out of places, for example, in Southern Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Virginia, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc. you see population in dire needs, poverty similar to poverty in third world nations. If you would travel to most regions in Mexico, our neighbor to the south, you see abject poverty.

Should we spend our national resources in these areas, rather than as bribe money to some ungrateful nations? Charity starts at home, our own USA, then to the nearest neighbor Mexico.

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;d love to travel to those places, Saint, but I&#039;m out of gas.  -- RDC&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have we become a victim of Israel insecurity among Arabs going back over two thousands year?<br />
Have we replaced the Persian protection of Israel with our American might? Have we been an Israeli proxy by invading Iraq? Why Israeli Lobby urging the United States to invade Iran?</p>
<p>We spend our precious tax money to bribe the regional nations by giving them “foreign aids”, please spare me! We arm these nations, all of them. Some of the same arms have been use to kill our people. Except for Iran, not a single American has been killed by Iranian people.</p>
<p>Should we spend our money and expertise in our hemisphere rather than 7500 miles from home? Our national interests must be our first imperative. If you would travel in out of places, for example, in Southern Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Virginia, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc. you see population in dire needs, poverty similar to poverty in third world nations. If you would travel to most regions in Mexico, our neighbor to the south, you see abject poverty.</p>
<p>Should we spend our national resources in these areas, rather than as bribe money to some ungrateful nations? Charity starts at home, our own USA, then to the nearest neighbor Mexico.</p>
<p><em>I&#8217;d love to travel to those places, Saint, but I&#8217;m out of gas.  &#8212; RDC</em></p>
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		<title>By: Roland Dodds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Saudis are clearly one of the worst regimes on the planet. The fact that they have gone this long without the scorn and furry from both the right and the left is beyond me.

I pray for the day that oil will not matter, and we can do away with these barbarians as we should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Saudis are clearly one of the worst regimes on the planet. The fact that they have gone this long without the scorn and furry from both the right and the left is beyond me.</p>
<p>I pray for the day that oil will not matter, and we can do away with these barbarians as we should.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Israelis, who recognize that Saudi Arabia is probably their last, best hope for a major Arab power that could broker some version of a Mideast “arrangement” that could perhaps give Israel decades more time to wait out some form of evolution in the Arab world away from violence and toward what we in the west regard as civilization — Israeli’s only long-term hope for survival from external threats.&lt;/i&gt;

According to John Loftus&#039; &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=trU7nY-T-4EC&amp;dq=John+Loftus&amp;prev=http://www.google.com/search%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Djohn%2Bloftus%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=print&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=author-navigational&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent book&lt;/a&gt;, the Saudis worked with Hitler, Jack Philby, Dulles and Hitler to wage war against the Jews:

&lt;i&gt;The modern world begins, the authors suggest, at the end of World War I, when British diplomat/adventurers Jack Philby (father of Soviet spy Kim Philby and legendary Arabist) and Lawrence of Arabia endeavour to unify a bunch of warring Bedouin tribes into nationhood, best represented by Saudi Arabia. Aware that black gold (oil) lies underneath the desert sands, Philby gingerly befriends Ibn Saud, and makes him the first Saudi king. But Philby is not solely interested in empire, even his own British one; he is interested in making money, and forges an alliance with an American intelligence agent in charge of Middle Eastern affairs, Allen Dulles.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;By the 1930s, Ibn Saud and Philby are secret supporters of the Nazi rise to political power in Germany, and bring Dulles, a NYC-based corporate lawyer for Sullivan and Cromwell, in on their scheme. It is a triple game driven by their hatred of Zionism and the Jews, motivated by their obsessive seeking of profits, and designed to completely transform the landscape of the Middle East. Philby and Dulles convince Ibn Saud to allow limited Jewish immigration to Palestine, assuring him that the numbers will never challenge or upset his control. When Jews leave Germany, their assets are confiscated by Hitler, who shares a percentage of these with dummy corporations established by Philby, Dulles, and their allies. Some of this money is used to arm Ibn Saud, and intelligence disclosures to him by Philby enable Ibn Saud to become king of Saudi Arabia over other Arab leaders supported by the British government. This double-dealing by British and American corporations continues throughout World War II, and incredibly is never halted by the Western allies, who would rather that Dulles stay in place andround up German intelligence agents after World War II&#039;s end for the upcoming Cold War against a previous ally, the USSR. One of the reasons that Jews are so hated by this clique, which includes Rockefeller&#039;s Standard Oil, is that many Jews were supporters of the left, anathema to corporate internationalists.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not sure how reliable Loftus is, but his portrayal of Philby and his motives rings true.

According to most sources, Philby taught the Sauds how to make themselves useful to the Americans and the Brits. The Sauds learned to stir up trouble, then they fixed the trouble, proving their worth as allies.

So now the Saudis fund Hamas, then they offer to help America and Israel with the &#039;peace process&#039;. The Saudis aren&#039;t the solution to many problems in the Middle East, they&#039;re the cause of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Israelis, who recognize that Saudi Arabia is probably their last, best hope for a major Arab power that could broker some version of a Mideast “arrangement” that could perhaps give Israel decades more time to wait out some form of evolution in the Arab world away from violence and toward what we in the west regard as civilization — Israeli’s only long-term hope for survival from external threats.</i></p>
<p>According to John Loftus&#8217; <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=trU7nY-T-4EC&amp;dq=John+Loftus&amp;prev=http://www.google.com/search%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Djohn%2Bloftus%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=print&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=author-navigational" rel="nofollow">recent book</a>, the Saudis worked with Hitler, Jack Philby, Dulles and Hitler to wage war against the Jews:</p>
<p><i>The modern world begins, the authors suggest, at the end of World War I, when British diplomat/adventurers Jack Philby (father of Soviet spy Kim Philby and legendary Arabist) and Lawrence of Arabia endeavour to unify a bunch of warring Bedouin tribes into nationhood, best represented by Saudi Arabia. Aware that black gold (oil) lies underneath the desert sands, Philby gingerly befriends Ibn Saud, and makes him the first Saudi king. But Philby is not solely interested in empire, even his own British one; he is interested in making money, and forges an alliance with an American intelligence agent in charge of Middle Eastern affairs, Allen Dulles.</i></p>
<p><i>By the 1930s, Ibn Saud and Philby are secret supporters of the Nazi rise to political power in Germany, and bring Dulles, a NYC-based corporate lawyer for Sullivan and Cromwell, in on their scheme. It is a triple game driven by their hatred of Zionism and the Jews, motivated by their obsessive seeking of profits, and designed to completely transform the landscape of the Middle East. Philby and Dulles convince Ibn Saud to allow limited Jewish immigration to Palestine, assuring him that the numbers will never challenge or upset his control. When Jews leave Germany, their assets are confiscated by Hitler, who shares a percentage of these with dummy corporations established by Philby, Dulles, and their allies. Some of this money is used to arm Ibn Saud, and intelligence disclosures to him by Philby enable Ibn Saud to become king of Saudi Arabia over other Arab leaders supported by the British government. This double-dealing by British and American corporations continues throughout World War II, and incredibly is never halted by the Western allies, who would rather that Dulles stay in place andround up German intelligence agents after World War II&#8217;s end for the upcoming Cold War against a previous ally, the USSR. One of the reasons that Jews are so hated by this clique, which includes Rockefeller&#8217;s Standard Oil, is that many Jews were supporters of the left, anathema to corporate internationalists.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how reliable Loftus is, but his portrayal of Philby and his motives rings true.</p>
<p>According to most sources, Philby taught the Sauds how to make themselves useful to the Americans and the Brits. The Sauds learned to stir up trouble, then they fixed the trouble, proving their worth as allies.</p>
<p>So now the Saudis fund Hamas, then they offer to help America and Israel with the &#8216;peace process&#8217;. The Saudis aren&#8217;t the solution to many problems in the Middle East, they&#8217;re the cause of them.</p>
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