Comments on: Writing like hell http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/ Ron Coleman’s retired general topic blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:32:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: theifearth http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-421 theifearth Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:16:40 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-421 Is there an onto-theology to spatialize and temporalize meaning? why do the affected boundaries of the ontic survive creations of reason, or the created reason? Why does the associated meaning and the affected state in existing space deciphered time be ontic to be affected? Is there an onto-theology to spatialize and temporalize meaning? why do the affected boundaries of the ontic survive creations of reason, or the created reason?
Why does the associated meaning and the affected state in existing space deciphered time be ontic to be affected?

]]> By: Ron Coleman http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-420 Ron Coleman Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:21:39 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-420 There is no bigger target among the media than the Catholic Church. Even <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/video-hannity-argues-with-priest-over-birth-control/" rel="nofollow">Sean Hannity</a> gets in on the act. There is no bigger target among the media than the Catholic Church. Even Sean Hannity gets in on the act.

]]> By: jh http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-419 jh Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:30:44 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-419 If you are interested I went into how the media got this all wrong and even appears to have made up quotes. I also wnet into what the Church teaches and how the media is getting that wrong http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=4269472 THe above link might be purged after 30 days i repeated the same here on Catholic Anwer forum http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=142187 Start at response 5 If you are interested I went into how the media got this all wrong and even appears to have made up quotes. I also wnet into what the Church teaches and how the media is getting that wrong
http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=4269472

THe above link might be purged after 30 days i repeated the same here on Catholic Anwer forum
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=142187

Start at response 5

]]> By: Ron Coleman http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-418 Ron Coleman Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:19:10 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-418 It's not hard. In fact to our sophisticated thinking what's hard to understand is how anyone could have thought hell and heaven were locations on a map. You could be right, though, Mike -- could just be, as I said, damnable writing! It’s not hard. In fact to our sophisticated thinking what’s hard to understand is how anyone could have thought hell and heaven were locations on a map. You could be right, though, Mike — could just be, as I said, damnable writing!

]]> By: Mike Melendez http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-410 Mike Melendez Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:56:52 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-410 If God transcends time and space, having created both, why is it so hard to understand that hell, aka the inferno, can also be something other than a physical place and still exist. It's not that it has to be somewhere or it's all in our minds. God isn't in a place nor is he just in our minds. For Him, as opposed to us, location <em>is</em> a construct of His mind. Given that "mind" has any meaning when applied to God. Seems to me, the paper went looking for controversy and, not finding any, cobbled it together by assigning words meanings that would bring it about and blamed their work on the Pope. If God transcends time and space, having created both, why is it so hard to understand that hell, aka the inferno, can also be something other than a physical place and still exist. It’s not that it has to be somewhere or it’s all in our minds. God isn’t in a place nor is he just in our minds. For Him, as opposed to us, location is a construct of His mind. Given that “mind” has any meaning when applied to God. Seems to me, the paper went looking for controversy and, not finding any, cobbled it together by assigning words meanings that would bring it about and blamed their work on the Pope.

]]> By: Ron Coleman http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-411 Ron Coleman Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:05:45 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-411 Well, is "symbolic" something different, really, from the formulation Dawn and Bailie used? What's a "real place" that still isn't a "place"? Well, is “symbolic” something different, really, from the formulation Dawn and Bailie used? What’s a “real place” that still isn’t a “place”?

]]> By: Jordan Potter http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-416 Jordan Potter Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:12:20 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-416 This probably isn't any help, but the Catholic News Service story on this homily doesn't say anything about hell having to be understood as symbolic: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0701686.htm This probably isn’t any help, but the Catholic News Service story on this homily doesn’t say anything about hell having to be understood as symbolic:

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0701686.htm

]]> By: Ron Coleman http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-415 Ron Coleman Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:00:14 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-415 Craig -- no, on the contrary, I think the decline of religious faith is largely a result of our wealth, not our misery. Jordan -- that's why I asked Dawn! I have heard Jewish approaches to Dawn's formulation, and also the one you emailed from Gil Bailie, that urges the great degree of spiritual pain that comes from a true understanding of the distance or separation between one's soul and one's Creator as a result of sin. But is that really what the Pope was saying here? Craig — no, on the contrary, I think the decline of religious faith is largely a result of our wealth, not our misery.

Jordan — that’s why I asked Dawn! I have heard Jewish approaches to Dawn’s formulation, and also the one you emailed from Gil Bailie, that urges the great degree of spiritual pain that comes from a true understanding of the distance or separation between one’s soul and one’s Creator as a result of sin. But is that really what the Pope was saying here?

]]> By: Jordan Potter http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-417 Jordan Potter Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:25:34 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-417 I think Dawn's comment is likely to be correct. I think Dawn’s comment is likely to be correct.

]]> By: craig mclaughlin http://www.likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-413 craig mclaughlin Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:25:23 +0000 http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2007/03/27/writing-like-hell/#comment-413 Oh, no doubt. But do you think the decline in the west, at least, of religious faith is because of that? Oh, no doubt. But do you think the decline in the west, at least, of religious faith is because of that?

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